Tennessee Republicans Join Lawsuit Challenging Obama Birth Certificate
Eric Swafford R-Tn
How many courts have rejected this stupid birth certificate argument that President Obama is not a US citizen so he is not therefore validly President of the United States! The Supreme Court has rejected two of these that I know about. I think these Tennessee Congress members have way too much time on their hands if they have time to file frivolous lawsuits. Aren’t these the same people who are always yacking about “trial lawyers” like me filing frivolous lawsuits? I don’t file frivolous lawsuits. Look in the mirror guys. This is about as frivolous as it gets.
From the Raw Story:
A Supreme Court decision apparently isn’t enough for Tennessee lawmakers in the House.
Despite the fact that the Court rejected an effort to contest President Barack Obama’s citizenship in a case earlier this year, four Tennessee lawmakers are still pushing a legal action to force the president to turn over his birth certificate and other documents to prove his citizenship.
It also comes after Obama posted a copy of his birth certificate on his campaign website.
Tennessee Republican congress members Eric Swafford, Stacey Campfield, Glen Casada and Frank Niceley have agreed to join a Russian immigrant in California’s case against Obama — which contends he’s not eligible to be president, the Tennessean’s Theo Emery reported Friday. Casada is the chairman of the House Republican caucus.
Democrats made fun of these jokers at a press conference. One Democrat said, “Who’s Eric Swafford?’ and another answered, ‘He’s from Mars.’” I’ll say. I think they make the residents of Bellevue look pretty good.
Update: I have posted on the origin of these ridicilous rumors. See that post here. Since “some” have argued in favor of this, I quote form the Tennessean below on the topic:
Four Tennessee state representatives, all Republicans, have signed up to be plaintiffs in a lawsuit against President Barack Obama, aimed at forcing him to prove he is a United States citizen by coughing up his birth certificate.
Let me just say what all the world is now thinking, including their fellow Republicans on the Hill: This is dumber than a box of rocks.
Tennessee Reps. Eric Swafford, Stacey Campfield, Glen Casada and Frank Nicely now have a giant “G” on their foreheads for “Gullible.” The four were so willing to drink the craziest flavor of Kool-Aid, they’ve gotten themselves caught up in a national urban legend that has been thoroughly debunked.
What’s next? A resolution honoring the Easter Bunny for doing such a great job with the annual colored egg delivery system? A proposed law asking these four to prove they have a brain?
Here’s the deal: A California man plans to file a lawsuit challenging whether Obama was constitutionally eligible to be president. This issue has already had its day in court. The U.S. Supreme Court (you know, the one with a majority of conservative judges?) rejected the case. Which should kill it dead.
People from Tenessee think it’s dumb and their legislators are too. Good job for the GOP again.
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Seriously, this would not even be an issue if he was 100% white and had a different middle name.
Talk about wasting tax payer dollars.
Isn’t California in a bit of a pickle at the moment?
skyewriter
February 14, 2009 at 11:46 am
Catherine are you a trial lawyer? Must not be a very good one-The Supreme Court just wont give standing– which is crooked-half the things in the court shouldn’t be heard but this is a matter of the constitution- and its a huge issue but i understand that liberal such as you who believe in the living constitution so they can change it any time they want instead of amendment ,would feel that it means nothing.
Reply: Mark or whoever you are, don’t come if you don’t like what I say. No legal scholar in the country or any lawyer who is worth anything thinks there is any merit to any of these lawsuits. So, I wouldn’t go around tossing names. If I were the judge, I would sanction them for filing frivolous lawsuits that the Republicans claim that they dislike, but they sure file enough of them, including this one.
By the way, for those of you who don’t know, standing is a fundamental prerequisite to maintaining any lawsuit in this contry and is required under Article III of the US Constitution. So when Mark, or the mental patient escapee here, accuses me of Constitution fail, I think he should look at himself because he wants the court to go forward with only the part of the Constitution that he likes.
if it ever gets in, obama will lose- here is why!
For each presidential candidate, they can put the factual history of their birth in the equation and see if they fit the bill to be president of the U.S. under the Constitution of the United States of America, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, and the 14th Amendment, Section 1, and the relevant federal law under U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), and Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939). As you can clearly see, Obama is a citizen of the United States, but he’s not a “natural born citizen” of the United States, and, as such, is not eligible for POTUS, because his father, a Kenyan, was not a U. S. citizen.
Obama… is not a “natural born citizen” because his father was a Kenyan national and a British subject. To be a natural born citizen, a person’s parents must BOTH be citizens of the United States of America. Further, that person must be born in the United States.
OBAMA
is a “citizen” because his mother was an American citizen. There are question about his birthplace and whether he was naturalized after his period of time as an Indonesian citizen.
OBAMA
is not a “native born citizen” — a child born in the United States of foreign (non-citizen) parents.
In the official copies of the THIRD U.S. Congress (1795) margin notes state “Former act repealed. 1790. ch. 3.” referencing the FIRST U.S. Congress (1790).
Document ONE: the actual text of the THIRD CONGRESS in 1795 states,
“…children of citizens [plural, i.e. two parents] of the United States…shall be considered citizens of the United States; Provided That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident in the United States…” (THIRD CONGRESS Sess. II. Ch.21. 1795, Approved January 29, 1795, pp. 414-415. Document margin note: “How children shall obtain citizenship through their parents” Document margin note: “Former Act repealed 1790 ch.3.”) See Attachment A.
Document TWO: the actual text of the FIRST CONGRESS in 1790 states,
“…children of citizens (NB: plural, i.e. two parents) of the United States…shall be considered as natural born citizens of the United States; Provided That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons, whose fathers have never been resident in the United States…” (FIRST CONGRESS Sess. II Ch.4 1790, Approved March 26, 1790, pp. 103-104. Document margin note: “Their children residing here, deemed citizens.” Document margin note: “Also, children of citizens born beyond sea, & c. Exceptions.”) See Attachment B.
Document THREE: the actual text of the Constitution from the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention, 1774-1789, and subsequent official printings, of the Constitution of the United States of American: Article II Section 1 Clause 5 states,
“No person, except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States
at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President…” See Attachment C.
Document FOUR: the actual text in a letter, dated January 26, 2009, was issued by United States Senator Mark R. Warner. Senator Warner fails to address any laws identifying a natural born citizen. Instead Senator Warner solely addresses a law identifying a citizen; avoiding the legal term “natural born citizen” as so stated under current Constitutional/Congress laws,
“…the Immigration and Nationality Act (P.L. 82-414) …states that
‘…A person born…after April 30, 1900 is a CITIZEN (emphasis added)
of the United States at birth…..’” See Attachment D
Because these three candidates (Obama (aka Soetoro), McCain, and Calero) were ineligible under Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, then the 2008 presidential election and its results are void.
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Regardless of what game of charades people in the mainstream media and people within our federal government are trying to pull. That is a legal fact that is not in dispute.
Reply: Yawn. Wiping eyes from sleepiness. OK, it’s time to adjust your aluminum foil hat Mark. You sound like you missed your meds. Raving about the “mainstream media” is really old and an excuse for anything going wrong that you and your ilk don’t like. Get over it and stop making excuses for your own failures and racism.
The “legal arguments” are well, what’s the point…
It is IMPOSSIBLE for Barry Obama, Barry Soetoro, or Barack Hussein Obama II, to be a natural born United States citizen. Obama can NOT POSSIBLY be a “natural born citizen” of the U. S. because his father, Barack Hussein Obama Senior, was a Citizen of the Great Britain and/or Kenya. He was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed Obama’s status until he was 21 years of age.
Two American parents and on American soil — simple as that.
frivolous lawsuits? your a joke and a hack if you feel that the constitution should be ignored and that the office of the president should be hijacked and deminished
Reply: The office has neither been hijacked nor diminished. I will tell you that the only time that i can remember that the office has really been diminished was under the crooks and liars known as Richard Nixon, George Bush and Dick Cheney.
You can come on my blog and throw around labels like liberal all you like, but my political views are not easily categorized, but I doubt you could recognize that because you are from that vastly minimized group, near extinction known as Republicans. Posts like these just show how fringe you are.
Keep up the good work because people like you just make it easy for people like me to show America how whacked that party is. Thanks Mark!
markcon
February 14, 2009 at 2:06 pm
-again if the label fits-a liberal will state this:”No legal scholar in the country or any lawyer who is worth anything thinks there is any merit to any of these lawsuits.” like you did- no fact -just a lie– despite your contradiction in the next sentence you finish with”but they sure file enough of them.”including this one.
not to mention one of the first of those to file was a Democrat Former Deputy State Attorney General, Attorney Philip J. Berg(worth anything?).Seems to be a lot of congressmen and attorneys doing it hmm seems they don’t let inconsequential blogger snide remarks stop them–(your not even on their radar). neither do I you try to belittle them and me as nutcase- just like all liberals do when they don’t have a valid argument. I notice you didn’t comment on my main assertion that he is not qualified / not a “natural”. then you do the classic dem move- champion of minorities you accuse racism and of course bring it up first- “Get over it and stop making excuses for your own failures and racism.” wow sounds just like obama. finally you said, “I will tell you that the only time that i can remember that the office has really been diminished was under the crooks and liars known as Richard Nixon, George Bush “. I guess Clinton having sex in oval office with a teen doesn’t tarnish / diminish anything?saying im the fringe on your own blog may comfort you but if you think your “views are not easily categorized” your delusional!
Reply: Oh ye of small mind and narrow vocabulary.
FYI Monica Lewinsky wasn’t a teen, but I’m sure that won’t stop you from saying things that aren’t true. Those ole facts get in the way.
Clinton had consensual sex with an adult. I’m sure it is not the first time, and I’m sure it’s not the last a President will have sex in the oval office, but at least he doesn’t get in trouble for chasing the young male pages like his Republican counterparts who hypocritically claim to be anti-gay and then seek homosexual sex in airport bathrooms.
Your comments are nutty stream of consciousness tin hat rants. Have you taken your meds lately? They are way overdue by now. Sounds like you need them, desperately.
How can I respond to the rantings of a lunatic? I already essentially said that the lawsuits and everything that you have said amount to a pile of mierda. President Obama is the President. Get over it. Over 70% of the country think he’s doing a good job.
Now move along. You bore me and I don’t like being bored.
markcon
February 14, 2009 at 4:15 pm
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February 14, 2009 at 4:41 pm
How do you do it, Catherine?
How do you draw that wackiest of the whackjobs to your blog?
I think you’re striking a chord with this very aptly described “fringe group”.
Indulge me a bit while I play with this barely literate troll…
Clinton had sex in the oval office with *teen*?
Huh?
What history book do you read that one in?
Dear, poor, Markcon.
Read carefully, honey.
The SCOTUS (which is the highest court in our country–none higher) has already thrown out *all* of the cases related to Obama’s birth certificate. None of them received a full hearing because they are:
A) Pointless
B) Based on internet scuttlebutt (that means lies)
C) Constitutionally irrelevant (that means a waste of time)
This one will be no different, if it is even true that there is such a case.
Evolve, sir Markcon. It’s time to evolve.
I’ll bet you’re a white, part-time or unemployed, financially struggling creationist. Right?
These people you align yourself with so ardently *want you* poor and stupid. Looks like they may have gotten at least half of that wish from the level of argument you present in your post.
Making ad hominen attacks (that means personal attacks instead of undoing someone’s argument or language) are not an argument. They are simply blind flails.
Please do yourself a favor and read something other than Red State, watch something other than Fox News which is little better than Inside Edition, and listen to someone who actually knows the legal system, like Catherine and our Supreme Court justices.
This is all bullshit and you are getting played with like a moronic child.
Grow up and wake up.
This is America, dude! Life’s too short to be spent in fear and throwing around hatred.
Get on the bus or get left behind.
Reply: Great reply.
I’ll never understand why they come on another person’s blog like that. What do they expect to accomplish. They are not persuasive and just sound terribly desperate and pathetic.
skyewriter
February 14, 2009 at 4:44 pm
sorry not teen-page -whatever- disgusting unprofessional disrespectful behavior by Clinton.
Reply: The pages and bathroom behavior were Republicans, not Clinton. Do you read?
So another liberal jumps in with the personal attacks and lies. Prove that SCOTUS THREW OUT ANYTHING- LET ALONE FOR A) Pointless
B) Based on internet scuttlebutt (that means lies)
C) Constitutionally irrelevant (that means a waste of time)
THEY JUST REFUSE TO GRANT STANDING-SEEMS NO ONE IN THE COUNTRY CAN GET IT- BUT IF THEY KEEP FILING THEY WILL GET IT EVENTUALLY- THEN THE FACTS WILL PROVE Them Selves.
Making an ad hominem argument seems to be your forte- I am the one making a rational factual argument and you two are the ones who are being obtuse and nasty.
Reply: Well, the Supreme Court will not proceed and you seem to concede that the Supreme Court does not agree with your argument so I suppose the Supreme Court is obtuse as well, which, by the way, is packed with ultra-conservative judges.
The cursing and name calling just brands you with your own argument.At least Cathrine tries to obtain a semblance of professionalism under that pseudo intellectual sarcasm- but you my dear are just laughable in your attempt at regurgitating the spew from huffington post.
Reply: Not pseudo Mark dear. Not pseudo. Still hearing voices?
your attempt at being the snobby intellectual was betrayed by your classy,quaint “dude”.
anyone reading this blog would be ducking from the hatred your throwing and throwing up from the slogans- hope you read my points and learned something everyone
Reply: Truth hurts. It always does. I don’t know what slogans you are talking about, but it really doesn’t matter anyway. Your ego is pretty big there Mark, given that you don’t know what you are talking about. What could you teach anyone and that is pretty presumptuous, don’t you think?
Good luck with those lawsuits. Not! LOL!!!
markcon
February 14, 2009 at 5:24 pm
God why are some people allowed to procreate! Especially these idiots from Tenn! To late Obama is our President! End of story. I think they want their Christ and Savior Rush Limbaugh to lead them. God what a bunch of idiots!
Reply: LOL!!
smokeybones
February 14, 2009 at 11:35 pm
BO is not the legal POTUS, and this whole matter is BO’s house of cards falling. You cannot censor the God’s honest truth, this will come to light.
Reply: I always find it amusing when an anonymous blogger comes here saying something with absolutely nothing to back it up. If you really had something to say, you would say it and in your own name and not cower behind anonymity. No one is censoring anything.
E.Idaho
February 15, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Markcon: I’m a conservative. You’re a #$(ing idiot.
It takes ONE US parent to be “natural born” (Which is defined in federal law and State Dept regs, not in the Constitution. Read it. Learn it. It is your friend). Or, one can be born on US soil, which Hawaii was in 1961, when he was born there.
There’s a minor issue that one parent must be resident in the US for 5 years after age 14, if the child is born overseas…which he wasn’t.
A minor cannot renounce their citizenship, nor does the US recognize such renouncements unless they are done in person at a US consular office. So any allegations about Indonesia in this context are hysterical.
Are we done here?
Now, please stop embarrassing us in front of the liberals and find something legitimate to bitch about, like Zero’s utter lack of executive experience, his utter economic incompetence, or his ties to crony gangsters.
This all sounds like the BS regarding Bush’s “dodging the draft” by enlisting in the military. (And as a 14 year Air Guard veteran, I can tell you that’s BS, too). There were a lot of criticisms to be made about Bush. Why was any time wasted on that crap?
Reply: First, I have rules on this blog and you have just about violated every one of them. Final warning.
Did you see anything about the National Guard in my post? No. I have only said that Iraq was based on a lie and completely and totally mishandled.
mzmadmike
February 17, 2009 at 11:45 am
Oh, and Catherine? If you think SCOTUS is packed with “ultraconservative” judges, you might loosen your own hat.
Of course, you probably think CNN is “right wing,” also.
Reply: Mike you do seem mad and rude. You also seem to think that you are quite the expert on most things. Anyway, it’s common knowledge that the bench is packed with ultraconservatives.
mzmadmike
February 17, 2009 at 11:47 am
mzmad-don’t make the mistake of acting like a dem/liberal. first , you didnt provide any info to back your claim-I did! second, you didnt disprove my facts. third,federal law can not change the constitution without an amendment – and state dept cant do or say crap(thank god)(-liberal haven) fouth, his birth cert. and location is meaningless.
dont get me started on bush- he did two thing right and thats all- tax cuts at beginning of terms and standing like a man in iraq– but other than that put a blue tie on him and he would be a one of the 3 best dem/lib president ever! clean up your act and your mouth airman—sir!
Reply: I agree with cleaning up the mouth part. Your comment about Bush being a liberal is absurd though. I always find it interesting that when ultraconservatives come on this blog, the first thing that you like to do is to throw around labels and call people names. It doesn’t make for very interesting discussions, I’ll tell you that.
markcon
February 17, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Catherine, you certainly are generous to post some of these comments. I’m not sure I would have. I find this argument tiring that President Obama…and I did say PRESIDENT…is not a natural-born citizen and thus can’t be president.
Poor Republicans…they are acting like whiny children who lost a game and can’t accept it. They have nothing to feel proud about in their own party and refuse to be adults and work with the Democrats to fix the mess that George Bush left.
I wish judges would penalize the people who bring these ridiculous lawsuits. The guy who started all of this nonsense has been sanctioned by the courts before for his conduct. I agree…the people bringing these lawsuits have too much time on their hands. This kind of nonsense from these Tennessee state senators make me feel embarrassed to say that I was born and raised there.
Reply: I hear you about the comments, but it is important to show people for who they really are. I think the vast majority of people out there are shocked at some of these fringe conservatives who pop up on my blog so it does some good.
I hear you. I think they are wasting valuable court time. They challenged Bill Clinton too, albeit on different grounds, so this is nothing new. They do have rules about that and I am not sure why they have not been sanctioned. They should be.
AustinTXGal
February 23, 2009 at 12:22 am
Yawwwnnnnnnn cl cl cl
Republicans, Conservatives, righteeesss this is getting sooooo tiring. Mr Obama IS the President of The United States of America! POTUS Get over it Dudes!!
Great post Austin TXGAL from a Uvalde TX Guy lol
Smokeybones
Reply: Hey there Smokey. I sure do agree with you. It’s laughable.
smokeybones
February 23, 2009 at 7:42 pm